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		<title>Comment on Parenting Book Recommendations? by Kacie</title>
		<link>http://masonslater.com/2012/02/20/parenting-book-recommendations/#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kacie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep to the flawed comment! They&#039;re all biased. 

I skipped both Sears and the Ezzos. I did watch the Business of Being Born and felt like it too had too much of an agenda. I sort of decided I&#039;d try to figure it out as I went and pick up resources for the specific things I was wrestling with. 

I liked the book, Your Baby&#039;s First Year, Week by Week. I am currently reading Effective Parenting in a Defective World by Chip Ingram. The first chapter really challenged me, but since then he&#039;s running off the assumption that our first goal as parenting is to teach our children to obey, and I disagree with that presupposition. I haven&#039;t yet read many of the other popular parenting books, and if you find on that you really like, let me know! 

And you know, each time I bought a book because I was really wrestling with something, it passed. Feeding problems, sleeping problems.... none of them really ended up being true problems, just what you WILL wrestle with for a season. And you&#039;ll be great. Love that baby, love your wife, and you&#039;ll be great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep to the flawed comment! They&#8217;re all biased. </p>
<p>I skipped both Sears and the Ezzos. I did watch the Business of Being Born and felt like it too had too much of an agenda. I sort of decided I&#8217;d try to figure it out as I went and pick up resources for the specific things I was wrestling with. </p>
<p>I liked the book, Your Baby&#8217;s First Year, Week by Week. I am currently reading Effective Parenting in a Defective World by Chip Ingram. The first chapter really challenged me, but since then he&#8217;s running off the assumption that our first goal as parenting is to teach our children to obey, and I disagree with that presupposition. I haven&#8217;t yet read many of the other popular parenting books, and if you find on that you really like, let me know! </p>
<p>And you know, each time I bought a book because I was really wrestling with something, it passed. Feeding problems, sleeping problems&#8230;. none of them really ended up being true problems, just what you WILL wrestle with for a season. And you&#8217;ll be great. Love that baby, love your wife, and you&#8217;ll be great.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Parenting Book Recommendations? by Mark Mathia</title>
		<link>http://masonslater.com/2012/02/20/parenting-book-recommendations/#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Mathia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My favorite flawed book about parenting has to be Revolutionary Parenting by George Barna.  Best of luck in your journey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite flawed book about parenting has to be Revolutionary Parenting by George Barna.  Best of luck in your journey.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Parenting Book Recommendations? by Sarah Bessey (@sarahbessey)</title>
		<link>http://masonslater.com/2012/02/20/parenting-book-recommendations/#comment-2079</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Bessey (@sarahbessey)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now you&#039;ve opened the flood gates, Mason. Get ready! :-)

For my babies&#039; early years, I am absolutely a Dr. Sears fan. In particular, The Birth Book, The Baby Book and The Breastfeeding Book were WORE OUT. Very helpful without being dogmatic. Their pregnancy book (funnily enough, titled &quot;The Pregnancy Book&quot;) is the one I recommend instead of &quot;What to Expect.

If you can find it at the library, rent The Business of Being Born. This is actually a DVD documentary. The best thing about it is that you can see a few natural childbirths and help you realise how positive and life-affirming and NORMAL birth is. I always say that pregnant women should be banned from watching TLC&#039;s A Baby Story - that show will freak a dude out! Childbirth was nothing like that for me and I think people really benefit from seeing a natural childbirth without all the screaming and epidurals, c-sections and inductions and drama etc. So yeah - good to watch!

Personally, I found the What to Expect When You&#039;re Expecting book really discouraging and rather useless, too - just long lists of everything that could go wrong. Everyone reads it but sometimes I think that&#039;s just because &quot;everyone reads it.&quot; The only ones I&#039;d warn away from are Babywise, Growing Kids God&#039;s Way and To Train Up a Child. These are all quite popular in the church but I have not found them helpful and in some cases, very detrimental to babies and their mothers. Of course, you know that my heart leans more towards gentle Christian parenting. 

Another good breastfeeding book is The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by the La Leche League. Good and practical. There is a good website for breastfeeding that talks a lot about overcoming the &quot;booby traps&quot; of our culture around breastfeeding and I always learn something there. 

Parenting from our heart for our kids (instead of from a &quot;training manual&quot; or a book or the pressure form Christian culture towards a certain method) has made the experience such a joy for us that it&#039;s hard not to want to share these things with people! Ultimately, parenting isn&#039;t something you get from a book, is it? Nothing really is. Like most of us, you&#039;ll read and curate and learn but ultimately, it&#039;s between you, your wife and the Holy Spirit. The biggest piece of advice I have for you is this: Trust you instinct. Trust your gut. Trust the Holy Spirit in you and for you.

Anyway! I could go on and on and on - you know me! I&#039;m just so very happy for you. Praying for your wife&#039;s health and the baby&#039;s health.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you&#8217;ve opened the flood gates, Mason. Get ready! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For my babies&#8217; early years, I am absolutely a Dr. Sears fan. In particular, The Birth Book, The Baby Book and The Breastfeeding Book were WORE OUT. Very helpful without being dogmatic. Their pregnancy book (funnily enough, titled &#8220;The Pregnancy Book&#8221;) is the one I recommend instead of &#8220;What to Expect.</p>
<p>If you can find it at the library, rent The Business of Being Born. This is actually a DVD documentary. The best thing about it is that you can see a few natural childbirths and help you realise how positive and life-affirming and NORMAL birth is. I always say that pregnant women should be banned from watching TLC&#8217;s A Baby Story &#8211; that show will freak a dude out! Childbirth was nothing like that for me and I think people really benefit from seeing a natural childbirth without all the screaming and epidurals, c-sections and inductions and drama etc. So yeah &#8211; good to watch!</p>
<p>Personally, I found the What to Expect When You&#8217;re Expecting book really discouraging and rather useless, too &#8211; just long lists of everything that could go wrong. Everyone reads it but sometimes I think that&#8217;s just because &#8220;everyone reads it.&#8221; The only ones I&#8217;d warn away from are Babywise, Growing Kids God&#8217;s Way and To Train Up a Child. These are all quite popular in the church but I have not found them helpful and in some cases, very detrimental to babies and their mothers. Of course, you know that my heart leans more towards gentle Christian parenting. </p>
<p>Another good breastfeeding book is The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by the La Leche League. Good and practical. There is a good website for breastfeeding that talks a lot about overcoming the &#8220;booby traps&#8221; of our culture around breastfeeding and I always learn something there. </p>
<p>Parenting from our heart for our kids (instead of from a &#8220;training manual&#8221; or a book or the pressure form Christian culture towards a certain method) has made the experience such a joy for us that it&#8217;s hard not to want to share these things with people! Ultimately, parenting isn&#8217;t something you get from a book, is it? Nothing really is. Like most of us, you&#8217;ll read and curate and learn but ultimately, it&#8217;s between you, your wife and the Holy Spirit. The biggest piece of advice I have for you is this: Trust you instinct. Trust your gut. Trust the Holy Spirit in you and for you.</p>
<p>Anyway! I could go on and on and on &#8211; you know me! I&#8217;m just so very happy for you. Praying for your wife&#8217;s health and the baby&#8217;s health.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Parenting Book Recommendations? by jasdye</title>
		<link>http://masonslater.com/2012/02/20/parenting-book-recommendations/#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jasdye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know those pregnancy/infant guide books, like &quot;What to Expect  When You&#039;re Expecting / During the First Year/ etc.&quot;? They&#039;re more than worth their weight in gold. Seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know those pregnancy/infant guide books, like &#8220;What to Expect  When You&#8217;re Expecting / During the First Year/ etc.&#8221;? They&#8217;re more than worth their weight in gold. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Parenting Book Recommendations? by Bob Kellemen</title>
		<link>http://masonslater.com/2012/02/20/parenting-book-recommendations/#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Kellemen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elyse Fitzpatrick&#039;s new book &quot;Give Them Grace&quot; is an excellent parenting book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elyse Fitzpatrick&#8217;s new book &#8220;Give Them Grace&#8221; is an excellent parenting book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Parenting Book Recommendations? by everybreathblog</title>
		<link>http://masonslater.com/2012/02/20/parenting-book-recommendations/#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[everybreathblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the same instinct! Dr Sears&#039; Baby Book (and many of his other books) helped me tremendously. That book helped me to trust what I now realize was the Holy Spirit&#039;s prompting (aka my intuition). You&#039;ll be a great dad!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same instinct! Dr Sears&#8217; Baby Book (and many of his other books) helped me tremendously. That book helped me to trust what I now realize was the Holy Spirit&#8217;s prompting (aka my intuition). You&#8217;ll be a great dad!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Last Week&#8217;s Reading: Frank Viola, Miracles, and Blogging Controversies by suzannah {so much shouting, so much laughter}</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suzannah {so much shouting, so much laughter}]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for linking that post on raising kids in the city. i hope to get back there someday, and i appreciate reading 
reflections from folks who see urban living as positive and redemptive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for linking that post on raising kids in the city. i hope to get back there someday, and i appreciate reading<br />
reflections from folks who see urban living as positive and redemptive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Celebrity Pastor Industrial Complex by Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marshall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody wants to be a big shot. People get personal discoveries from martial arts, mental-health counseling, or religious insight and right away want to be a leader. We (in my Art) used to have the idea of a &quot;non-professional&quot; teacher who ran a group on the side, but the main thing was to live a life with a family and a career that is &quot;productive&quot; in the literal sense, illuminated by training. But those who take this path are seen as uncommitted amateurs, unqualified to have a voice in adult conversations. How many of those people at conferences, people buying those books, are full-time professional pastors giving celebrity in the hope that celebrity will accrue to them? Who can be satisfied with a one-horse blog that only gets two comments per post while working at a bookstore and having a wife? Where is the courtyard of the temple where people can go for conversation among equals?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody wants to be a big shot. People get personal discoveries from martial arts, mental-health counseling, or religious insight and right away want to be a leader. We (in my Art) used to have the idea of a &#8220;non-professional&#8221; teacher who ran a group on the side, but the main thing was to live a life with a family and a career that is &#8220;productive&#8221; in the literal sense, illuminated by training. But those who take this path are seen as uncommitted amateurs, unqualified to have a voice in adult conversations. How many of those people at conferences, people buying those books, are full-time professional pastors giving celebrity in the hope that celebrity will accrue to them? Who can be satisfied with a one-horse blog that only gets two comments per post while working at a bookstore and having a wife? Where is the courtyard of the temple where people can go for conversation among equals?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Sermon as Lecture? by Derick Harper</title>
		<link>http://masonslater.com/2012/02/13/the-sermon-as-lecture/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derick Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been struck recently with the thought, &quot;who says the pinnacle of a worship service has to be a 30+ minute sermon/lecture?&quot; That&#039;s what I seem to find in almost every evangelical church I&#039;ve visited. I wonder if it is related to the cult of personality that seems to follow successful pastors &amp; those who want to be just like them? Is it really about one man&#039;s ego &amp; his desire to tell us what&#039;s on his mind, &amp; coincidentally, without having to worry about interruption or having to defend what is often ultimately only his opinion? I recently visited a church where the pastor honestly have a fairly decent sermon, but which had some gaping holes in logic that it drove me nuts. Should he be allowed to say thimgs that don&#039;t add up? I guess that&#039;s the business of that particular church! But what I find even more interesting is, in my experience, the things that are ignored in many, dare I say most, worship services today. It has not been inusual for me to find no Scripture reading in evangelical services. Sometimes there is perhaps a cursory acknowledgement of a verse or two the pastor uses as a springboard to get to what he really wants to talk about; but it&#039;s so scant &amp; out of context that it might as well have been skipped altogether. Additionally, the sacraments are often treated as an afterthought we have to get out of the way or that we have to make time to get around to. Creeds &amp; confessions are all but dead except in the most liturgical of traditions. Prayer seems to fair better than these but still doesn&#039;t carry the weight that sermons do. I would really like to try a worship service with all of those things (sacraments, scripture, confessions, &amp; prayer) &amp; purposely leave out the sermon &amp; see if it&#039;s really missed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been struck recently with the thought, &#8220;who says the pinnacle of a worship service has to be a 30+ minute sermon/lecture?&#8221; That&#8217;s what I seem to find in almost every evangelical church I&#8217;ve visited. I wonder if it is related to the cult of personality that seems to follow successful pastors &amp; those who want to be just like them? Is it really about one man&#8217;s ego &amp; his desire to tell us what&#8217;s on his mind, &amp; coincidentally, without having to worry about interruption or having to defend what is often ultimately only his opinion? I recently visited a church where the pastor honestly have a fairly decent sermon, but which had some gaping holes in logic that it drove me nuts. Should he be allowed to say thimgs that don&#8217;t add up? I guess that&#8217;s the business of that particular church! But what I find even more interesting is, in my experience, the things that are ignored in many, dare I say most, worship services today. It has not been inusual for me to find no Scripture reading in evangelical services. Sometimes there is perhaps a cursory acknowledgement of a verse or two the pastor uses as a springboard to get to what he really wants to talk about; but it&#8217;s so scant &amp; out of context that it might as well have been skipped altogether. Additionally, the sacraments are often treated as an afterthought we have to get out of the way or that we have to make time to get around to. Creeds &amp; confessions are all but dead except in the most liturgical of traditions. Prayer seems to fair better than these but still doesn&#8217;t carry the weight that sermons do. I would really like to try a worship service with all of those things (sacraments, scripture, confessions, &amp; prayer) &amp; purposely leave out the sermon &amp; see if it&#8217;s really missed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wright and Enns – what do we mean by “Literal?” by how are some more certain of everything than i am of anything?&#8230;. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; another day reading but at home</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[how are some more certain of everything than i am of anything?&#8230;. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; another day reading but at home]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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