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I am quite excited to be hosting Dianna Anderson this morning on the blog! Dianna is a resident of the great city of Chicago, and works for a day job as a radio producer on an English Language Learners program. She blogs about feminism and theology at diannaeanderson.net.

Last week we got into a conversation about the right and wrong ways for men to go about writing on women’s issues, and how easy it is for men to co-opt the conversation and imagine the debate begins and ends with them. Especially in light of recent social and theological controversies, I made the suggestion that this was a conversation that would be worth opening up for a larger audience, and Dianna graciously agreed to write a guest post on the topic.

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Over the past few years, I’ve learned how to constantly filter and edit myself. I have to decide, before every time I bring up a controversial issue, whether or not the cost is worth it, whether or not making this argument, at this time, is worth the backlash, the anger, the dismissive responses.

And I’m not alone – many of my fellow women edit, censor, double-check their tone, try to make sure that we can’t be painted as crazy, or emotional, or simply “too much” for the discussion at hand. Get angry, upset, or even just reasonably frustrated, and many people will immediately write you off, dismiss your point, or condescendingly say that they’ll listen when you’ve calmed down.

Men, in my experience, don’t have to censor themselves in this way. They aren’t really accused of being “too emotional,” and can know that their argument will be considered – mostly – regardless of tone. They can trust that what they say will have an aura of authority regardless of how they choose to phrase the argument.

Problems arise when men and women collide in discussing issues that particularly affect women.

Women have multiple barriers between themselves and the discussion of an issue that’s important to them. If we discuss the issue ourselves, it tends to become isolated from the people who really need to hear our arguments. If we violate the terms of “acceptable” tone in a discussion, we lose even more listeners. If we hand off the discussion of our issue to men to whom other influential men will listen, we lose much of the force behind the argument – it lacks any of the personal connection.

And, too often, a man speaking on the issue will appropriate a woman’s response in order to look like he really cares.

It is this last dilemma that is most frustrating. Too often, a man discussing a woman’s issue runs the risk of unintentionally silencing women in his attempts to speak on her behalf.

And that, ultimately, is the rub: Are these men speaking FOR us, or are they speaking WITH us? If it’s the former, patronizing tone often all too easily slips in, and men end up offending the very women they’re trying to help.

I know a ton of awesome men who care deeply about women’s issues. I’m extremely grateful for their contributions to the discussion and to the political movements that surround many women’s issues. I don’t want men to think that they cannot speak about these issues or that they have nothing to contribute – they do, and I’m quite frequently grateful for it. But when men forget that they are speaking WITH us on these issues, and instead steal our voice and presume to speak FOR us, this becomes a problem. Suddenly, your great treatise on why women should be involved in the church sounds patronizing, condescending, and harsh. Suddenly, what you thought was a solid argument alienates those you were trying to help.

And that, I think, is the principle that needs to be remembered whenever men approach a feminist discussion: Am I speaking FOR women, or am I speaking WITH them? And if women tell you that you’re speaking FOR them (and not in a good way), it behooves you to listen.”

Today’s guest post is brought to you by Charles Peters. Charles is a student at Liberty University, blogs at charlespeters.net, and is the editor of online magazine Heretic Press.

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art is a creation. but art is also a way of seeing the world and so is faith. art shows us that things are beautiful and have meaning and so does faith. art brings us deeper into the world we live in and so does faith.

when you open the bible, it begins in genesis 1. it begins with a poem that tells of god creating, of making and of god calling something good. this poem shows exactly who god is, first and foremost he is a god who creates. he’s a god who sees the hope raising up out of nothing and breathing the possibility into existence. he calls what he made ‘good’. we can establish that this word ‘good’ is not a state of frozen perfection. it’s a statement of progress. this creation is the foundation of the whole bible. after all, it is ‘in the beginning’.

for most people the bible starts in genesis 3 with a fallen existence, a broken world and a sin nature. i say this is where the bible starts for most folks because, this is the focus and prime obsession of what it means to be a christian. to be a christian is to be a sinner who was saved. it’s a faith full of division where things either are saved or secular.

but that’s only a half-truth.

the bible clearly begins in genesis 1, where god began as a creator. and in the next chapter he calls the first people he made in his likeness to be co-labors, they were called to tend and to work the garden because things were well growing. and then sin enters the world.

god has not stopped being a creator. he has not stopped asking us to labor and work. he has not stopped seeing the possibility and bringing it into existence.

if we being with our faith in chapter 1 of genesis, we as a people are empowered. if we are made in his likeness doesn’t that make us creators? doesn’t that call us to bring the possibility into existence? i would say yes. being a creator, being creative, bleeds into our spirit and being spiritual.

we’re called to be artists not sinners. we’re called to be a people who are in awareness that they burst with creative potential. god tell us that we should ‘work against the ground’, to fight to get to some- thing beautiful like the garden we were made in. that’s what the first few chapters of genesis tell us versus that we’re all hopeless without a savior. but we are saved and we trying to be back to the gar- den.

it’s a faith that makes everything sacred. this realignment of our foundation helps us see that everything is sacred. in colossians it says:

He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

all things still means all things. it means that in this faith the secular is sacred. it mean that any creative expression is redeemed. for the christian there is no seperation on the billboard charts; for the christian all music is christian music. child-raising, business, politics and labor are creative endeavors that are all sacred spiritual work. they aren’t outside of faith, they’re all avenues within this view of the world.

if what colossians says and what we learn in genesis is true everything is being redeemed and everything is meant to be encountered. to be someone of this faith is be someone who creates.

Today’s post is brought to you by my friend Ray Hollenbach. Ray blogs at Students of Jesus, which is always worth a careful read. Today he reflects on heaven and eternal life.
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When I was a teenager I chose Heaven over Hell–but just barely.  As a new believer I had conflicting ideas about eternal life. The people who led me to the Lord told me I could go to Heaven by trusting Jesus’ sacrifice for my sins. I honestly hadn’t given the issue much thought; since there were only two choices Heaven seemed like the better alternative. Heaven didn’t sound very exciting, but Hell sounded worse.

Someone told me in Heaven we would spend all eternity worshiping God. This presented a problem because most of my time in church was boring. Could it be true? Would heaven consist of an unending songfest directed toward the Almighty? One of the verses Amazing Grace gave me cause for concern:

“When we’ve be there 10,000 years
bright shining as the sun
we’ve no less days to sing God’s praise
than when we’ve first begun.”

With some measure of guilt I tried to imagine myself enjoying this 10,000 years, only to find that we had just begun. It was not appealing.

Here’s a question: What if you got to live forever but you didn’t like the life you got to live?

Popular images of heaven include the idea that we will inhabit celestial mansions, waft upon fluffy light clouds and worship eternally.

These images are certainly better than eternal torment and suffering, but do they really represent the stuff we would choose to do forever, especially given the activities and tastes we choose right now? Even as a Christian, if I spend my entire life indulging my personal tastes, why would I want to focus on Someone Else for eternity? I would be trapped in heaven eternally.

Unless “heaven” and “eternal life” are not the same things.

Jesus himself provided a reliable definition of eternal life: “Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” (John 17:3) Nothing about clouds, harps, or heaven. Eternal life is knowing the Father and knowing Jesus. The Father has given Jesus the authority to grant eternal life, and Jesus’ definition is simply that we would come to know the Father and the Son.

So when does eternal life begin? If we can adjust our view to what Jesus revealed, the answer, of course, is now. When we first turn toward God, we are entering into eternal life. When we turn away from our selfish choices and orientation toward Jesus, we are entering into eternal life. When we grow in our relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, we are growing into eternal life.

When does a child know its mother? At birth? From within the womb? As a teenager? The answer is “all of the above.” Earlier in the same gospel Jesus tells us that we cannot see or enter the Kingdom of God unless we are “born from above.” (John 3: 3-8) His choice of birth imagery is instructive: a child begins to perceive light and dark before birth. A child intuitively knows its mother’s voice and heartbeat before birth. Yet after the trauma of labor and delivery a child is characterized by what it does not know: the entire process of growth and maturity could be considered “getting to know” its parents.

This process of growth and knowledge continues even beyond childhood. Most adults realize that with each passing decade they come to “know” their parents more and more. I knew my father more fully after I became a father. Our life in God is made possible by Jesus Christ. That life has its beginning when we are born from above. John’s gospel reminds us from the very beginning we are “born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.” (John 1: 13) As we are born of Him, his intention is that we would spend every moment of eternal life growing in the grace and knowledge of Him.

So what about heaven? As we begin to experience eternal life through our walk with Jesus, he begins to work heaven into us even now. I may not know the details of what heaven looks like, but I have come to understand that heaven feels exactly like the fruit of the Holy Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. These are the fruit of coming to know the Father and the Son, through living in the Spirit each day (see Galatians 5: 16 – 25)

I’m no longer troubled by the thought of heaven. Whatever it looks like and whatever he has for us to do, I can rest my relationship with him. As I cooperate with the Holy Spirit he is making fit for heaven.  I suspect I’ll enjoy it when I get there because I’m learning to enjoy it now.

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Ray Hollenbach, a Chicagoan, writes about faith and culture. He currently lives in central Kentucky, which is filled with faith and culture. You can check out his work at Students of Jesus

Today’s guest post is by my friend David Nilsen. His blog, The Screaming Kettle, is consistently excellent, and I’ve found in his writing a story that is very much like my own.

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I used to be a Calvinist. Now I’m not. If you know anything about theology, you know I just told one of the world’s shortest complete stories.

I am a rational thinker. I love math and science and lists and organized categories. So it’s obvious looking back that at the point at which I encountered Calvinism as an adult, the key fit the lock. I had begun meeting weekly with the new worship pastor at our church, and one week we got into the classic argument about sovereignty and free will. We raised our voices. I told him it wasn’t fair. He told me it didn’t matter. I hardly slept for weeks.

I would lay in bed staring at the ceiling trying desperately to make the lines connect in such a way that God would still be just for doing this. I wrestled with the ideas in my head trying to make the lines connect. I crunched the numbers and erased them when they didn’t add up until suddenly, late one night, they did. I can’t remember what the epiphany was, but I had gotten the math to work, and God was still good. I was suddenly a Calvinist, and I saw the world with new eyes. In the words of one young Calvinist I know, I had experienced “second salvation”.

If you’ve ever radically changed your theology as an adult, you know the heady rush that comes with that new perspective. The weeks and months that follow are like putting your mouth to an open fire hydrant – there is so much to take in and you want it all. Calvinism was beautiful to me. It provided a perfect system of answers that left no room for ambiguity. Every doctrine had a place in the house Paul built. You could almost run your hands along them like the clean boards of a new shelf.

I made a good Calvinist, and for the eighteen months it stuck. I’m not afraid of confrontation and I grasp systems easily, so as soon as I was convinced I began convincing others. I was leading the young adults ministry at our church at that point, and I taught Habakkuk, Ruth and all six Post-Exile books from a Calvinist perspective, which is not easy, let me tell you.

We attended New Attitude in early 2007, the twentysomethings conference put on by Sovereign Grace Ministries. Speakers included Mark Dever, Al Mohler, C.J. Mahaney and John Piper. Three thousand young people, each as restless and reformed as the next, packed into the convention center in Louisville, Kentucky for four days of worship, sermons, prayer and discussion. My wife and I went by ourselves but were quickly taken in by an amazing group of people from a church in another state. They invited us to their hotel for meals, welcomed us into their group for prayer and fellowship, and in every way showed the love of Jesus to us. Even now, after abandoning not only Calvinism but Biblical inerrancy, creationism, complimentarianism and all the other trappings of reformed evangelicalism, that weekend still stands out to me as one of the truest experiences of Christian community I have ever known. Their hearts were full of love and thirsty for beauty; that they’ve maintained both in the face of Calvinism is a mystery to me, but I am grateful for them.

Calvinism was amazing right until it wasn’t. It was about a year before every last spark of joy evaporated from my spiritual life, and it happened rapidly. At the time I thought it was just a dry spell, but it wouldn’t go away. God seemed absent not only from my time in prayer but from the pages of Scripture. I couldn’t figure it out. I hadn’t fallen into sin, I was being faithful in my reading and prayer, I was holding to truth. I was crossing every T, dotting every i. I couldn’t figure it out.

Looking back I earnestly believe it was the mercy of God. I had grabbed hold of what I perceived as Truth so tightly it had died and turned to dust in my hands, and the way I looked at God and his work in the world was mathematical and cold. I hadn’t done it on purpose, but I had turned God into a logical computer and the Bible into a code book. Calvinism provided all the answers, which had always seemed like the point of faith. I hadn’t yet realized that life was found in the questions. And damn if the questions didn’t come.

After six months of the total absence of joy and passion in my spiritual life, I had the space to begin asking hard questions. The gears and pulleys of my theology had been greased early on with the enthusiasm of new discovery, but that grease had worn away, the machine had seized, and I could finally get in and look at how it worked. I hated what I found. If what I had believed was true, God was not good. It felt like I was seeing the man behind the curtain, and he was a very bad wizard. I was stuck for a time in the terrifying place of still thinking Calvinism was true, but believing God was a monster if it was.

It’s an awful thing to have to question the goodness of God. In fact, in the couple years that followed the collapse of my faith system, the only thing I felt I could hold onto was that God was good. I refused to let that go even when everything seemed to indicate the opposite. I couldn’t get my mind around how God could be acquitted of great guilt if He really worked the way the Calvinists said, but I refused to accept that He was less than Love. My daily prayer was God, I believe you are good, but I can’t see how. Help me see how. And slowly, painfully, he freed my heart from the weight of the doctrines I had chained to it, and chained to him.

The last several years have been a time of rediscovering joy and freedom. I no longer believe God works in the cold manner I had assigned to him. And I no longer believe he requires me to solve for x in some doctrinal equation in order to know him. I have a head full of questions now, but my heart is far more at peace than when I thought I had all the answers.

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David Nilsen is a writer from Greenville, Ohio. He loves good coffee and beer, deep talks that keep him up too late, books and snobby films. He’s been married to Lyndie for ten years this January, and has a four year old daughter who is already asking questions about God he doesn’t know how to answer. He blogs at http://homekettle.wordpress.com and you can follow him on Twitter at @DNilsenKettle. 

Today’s guest post is by my close friend, spiritual mentor, and undergrad classmate, Jim. 

Jim lives the Grand Rapids with his wife Natalie and is a pastor at Celebration Bible Church. He enjoys Chelsea Football Club, fine music and finer coffee. He is also a sporadic blogger at Lower Cases and Capitals.

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Like you, I love the Sermon on the Mount.

As I began to get serious about studying the Bible, this section of scripture played a very formative role for me. Looking at the all so familiar lines with fresh eyes was part of the reason I decided to become a pastor. Here Jesus is at his revolutionary and subversive finest. It’s impossible to not be moved by him.

But in the moments immediately after preaching, Jesus makes a few more profound statements about himself.

Matthew writes that when Jesus came down from the hill, crowds gathered around and followed him.

Now, anyone who has ever preached a sermon is intimately familiar with something I like the call “post-sermon crash.” After emotionally and mentally draining yourself of what you have been devoting yourself to for the better part of the week (or more), there is is phenomena that is similar, I imagine, to being run over by a mid-sized woodland creature. Not enough kill you, but just enough to make you want to curl up in the corner of your office for 2-5 hours and/or eat a really big hamburger. The one thing you don’t really want to deal with is people.

So Jesus just preaches the most brilliant sermon of all time and is on his way to Red Robin but is followed by “large crowds.” Awesome.

Now, when you do encounter people in the midst of the PSC, it is passable if the conversation they want to have with you is centered around what you have just been teaching. This tells you that 1) they were actually listening and 2) they cared about what you said. The worst thing that someone can do (ye church goers with ears, let them hear) is come up to you are being asking about next weeks children’s program. This tells you that 1) they were not listening and/or 2) they don’t care what you said. Win/win.

So, Jesus preaches and is surrounded by people. The first guy to talk to him that Matthew mentions says to Jesus “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean” which is roughly translated to “I wasn’t really paying attention when you were blabbing away, but I know you can do something for me.” Let’s be fair. Having leprosy in the 1st century wasn’t easy and he probably had a few other things on his mind (like the shame of being a social outcast). But none-the-less, this is his comment to Jesus. So when Jesus responds “I am willing. Be clean!” I’m blown away.

How powerful is that?

Jesus – the incarnation of God, the long awaited Messiah, the Savior of the World, the King of Kings – responds to a guy who most teachers of Jesus’ status would not have evan acknowledged. This guy is unclean, disgraced, broken and outcast. In short, he isn’t the ideal disciple. Yet Jesus responds not with “Come on man, blessed are the meek! Weren’t you listening?” but with a simple and life altering “I am willing.”

He was willing to make him whole and right. He was willing to give him back his dignity. He was willing to be a part of his story. He was willing.

And you know what? He still is today. We are broken and unclean and disgraced and outcast. We don’t have it together. We don’t listen during sermons. We don’t give like we should. We don’t pray like we should. We are too sarcastic. We are lustful. We are gossips. We are insensitive. We judge. We bicker. We fail.

Jesus replied “I am willing. Be clean.”

Wherever we find ourselves, may our prayer be: Lord, if you are willing, you can.

Today’s post is by blogger extrodinare Nish Weiseth. Nish blogs at The Outdoor Wife, and is the founder of A Deeper Story, which she was kind enough to invite me to join. Today she shares her heart about the plight of women in the Church and around the world.

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My dear brothers,

There are a few things I want to get off my chest. Things that have been slowly building for a while now… I’ve waited, thought, and prayed for the right time to finally open up & talk with you. I’m much better at writing than I am at speaking, so this seems to be the best avenue.

I come to you with open hands & a humble heart. I hope you’ll receive me the same way, as your sister.

My brothers, I’m tired.

I’m tired of being pushed aside and pushed down. I’m tired of hearing the lie that my contributions and opinions aren’t strong enough or deeply rooted in Scripture enough, simply because I’m a woman. I’m tired of those lies coming from you. I study Scripture just like you. I read the commentaries and I read primary documents and I pray and seek counsel, just like you. I’m quite capable of theological discussion. Just because I come to a different conclusion, doesn’t mean I’m “theologically unsound” or “unbiblical.” Please stop calling me that.

My brothers, I’m tired.

I’m tired of the comments that so easily roll off your tongue. I’m frustrated at the jokes you make at our expense. The comments aren’t kind to the heart and the jokes aren’t funny. Could you stop? It’s hurtful. It’s damaging. Us women, we’re hard enough on ourselves, we don’t need it from you, too.

My brothers, I’m tired.

I’m tired of constantly feeling like I need to stand up for myself and my sisters because of our gender. If we call out something, or someone, that we don’t agree with (after much prayer and study), don’t brush us off and just call us “bitter.” We’re not bitter. We’re justified. And, sometimes, we’re even RIGHT. My sisters and I, we are intellectuals, theologians, caregivers, wives, mothers, daughters, revolutionaries & image-bearers. We can bring forth life & sustain it. My brothers, we are capable of a great many things. Please don’t write us off so quickly.

My brothers, I’m tired.

I’m tired of the same old arguments. Can a woman lead in church, or no? Can she preach, or not? Can she be an elder, or not? Can she work, or should she stay home? Is it okay to “let herself go?” So often, you boldly shout your opinions from the rooftops on any one of these subjects, and can I tell you? Those conversations mean NOTHING to a vast majority of women around the world.

Carolyn Custis James, in her book “Half the Church” wrote the following:

Our cloistered discussions about God’s purposes for women and the resulting infighting that ensues among us leave women elsewhere in the world scratching their heads. Blinded by the insulation of prosperity, we are at risk of transmitting a message as irrelevant and unworkable as Marie Antoinette’s solution for the starving masses: “Let them eat cake!” – a message that when sanctioned as “biblical” is cruelly beyond the reach of those with less.

Where is your loud voice for these women? Why don’t you ever direct your discussions of gender to the undeniable injustices that are happening to women around the world, every minute of every day?

Why are you not angry about women being sold into prostitution & slavery? The women forced to give up their children? The women dying of hunger & disease? The women who are being sought out and killed because they want an education? The women who are stoned and burned to protect a family’s “honor?”

I don’t mean to get all “what-would-Jesus-do” on you, but really… what would He do? What would HE speak out against first? My brothers, I humbly submit that sometimes, your arguments are strongly misplaced.

My brothers, I’m tired.

I’m tired of standing so alone. So few of you stand with us on issues of women’s rights around the world, on equality, on poverty. My brothers, we need your voices. We need to be united on the issues that affect the least of these. We need to be united on the issues that affect women’s access to education. We need to be united on the issues of violence against women around the globe.

My brothers, we need to be united. Period. 

The more you marginalize us in small ways, the bigger the chasm grows between us. Our effectiveness (and yours) decreases exponentially. To tackle the problems that are closest to the heart of Christ, we need each other. We can’t do this on our own, on opposing sides.

This is my plea.

This is my invitation.

Stop drawing lines in the sand. Instead, lets meet in the middle and do great things together. 

My brothers, I’m ready to change the world.

But, I need you. And, you need me.

Shall we find a new way, together?

Yours,

Nish 

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Nish Weiseth is the blogger behind The Outdoor Wife, founder and editor of A Deeper Story, and a World Vision blogger & poverty advocate. She loves wine, cooking and old school hip-hop. She hates Broadway show tunes. She and her husband live in Salt Lake City with their two-year-old son.

Today’s post is by my friend, Chelsea Axford. Chelsea is a fellow Grand Rapidian, a student at Kyper College, a blogger at Me, Too, and one of the brightest people I’ve had the pleasure of getting to know.

The people sharing over the next week are guests here, so please be gracious in your comments.

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A note to begin:  This is by no means an exhaustive study on Christianity and homosexuality.  Nor is it a stance in any “anti-“ or “pro-“ camp.  I am simply in the infant stages of the grand adventure of getting off of the fence.  Apathy in regards to my LGBT brothers and sisters is no longer an option.  So now, I ask questions.  Will you join me?

“To not oppose bigotry is to endorse it.”
-Pedro Irigomegaray, from Fall From Grace

The first time I tried to watch the documentary Fall From Grace, I felt physically ill at about the 10 minute mark.  It is a film documenting the Phelps family of Topeka, Kansas.  You may recognize them more readily as Westboro Baptist Church.   Find the trailer for the film here.

Feel free to visit their church’s homepage at www.godhatesfags.com

My immediate questions:

Are they in practice what my heart is in theory?

Why does this make me sick?

What exactly do I believe about homosexuality?

I am no longer satisfied with the “love the sin, hate the sinner” response – a person’s sexuality, identity, and spirituality are inseparable entities.

I begin here:

“Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another fulfills the law.  For the commandments “You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet,” and any other commandment are summed up in this word:  You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”  Romans 13:8-10

What is love?

Doesn’t the Old Testament law exist to endorse the value in “thy neighbor,” to advocate for the dignity of human beings out side of one’s self?

What does it mean to uphold the dignity of “thy neighbor?”

Christians don’t  deny basic human rights to people of other religions, so why the LGBT community?

People have used God and scripture to support racism and sexism for centuries.  Should we be using scripture today to support heterosexism?

Should we have the right to deny another human being a job based on sexual orientation?

Do I have to be an advocate for equality of human rights to be a Christian?

What exactly is “sin?”

Is “sin” failing to love thy neighbor?

Am I the sinner by refusing to uphold the dignity of my LGBT brothers and sisters?

Perhaps it is easy to see how this has quickly become a human rights issue for me.  If not, look harder.

This is the beginning of my journey out of apathy, and more than likely into a perplexing mystery – one in which I ask more questions than I will ever receive answers.

Don’t be afraid.

If you’re into the funny-because-it’s-kinda-true Saturday Night Live satire, this is for you:

Dude’s got a point.

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